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Practioners will walk away with updates surrounding the 2024-25 FAFSA and TASFA. Additionally, we will discuss what we've learned since the FAFSA and TASFA opened in late December 2023 and how to best implement best practices moving forward.

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good morning everyone thank you so much for joining us today we are going to go ahead and get started it is exactly a 10:30 on the dot so I do have a couple of announcements to make before we begin and turn it over to our prisoner so I'm going to go ahead and share my screen really quickly can I be see that okay I'm so first of all we want to welcome you to the Texas migrant Interstate program a migratory students intrastate first aid coordination conference the formula to success my name is dr. Gina Gonzalez and I will be facilitating the what you need to know if that's the test by 24 25 and Beyond session before we begin I do have a couple of announcements as a reminder this session is being recorded also at the conclusion of the session you will be directed to complete a brief survey to evaluate the session please honest feedback so that we can design a future session we really do value what you have to say and we want to be able to tailor these session to better support you find me please be sure to mute your self and place questions that you may have in the chat box so at this time I'm going to go ahead and stop sharing my screen and I'm going to turn the time over to our session presenter you will go ahead and introduce yourself again thank you for joining us good morning my name is Gina marra. I hope you all can see the screen can y'all see the screen that I'm sharing that's perfect I'm doing what I that I am with RGV focus it is a live in our Collective impact organization here in the Rio Grande Valley I've been with this organization for almost 2 years and I've really enjoyed my time previous to that I was working in North Carolina if another College access group or national college access group and within that role in that spear for almost 7 years so I'm excited to be back in the Rio Grande Valley serving our students and Families my slide that we go so we're going to talk a little bit about what counters need to know for better fast as many of you know the FAFSA has changed drastically this year a lot of those changes are for better I know right now it has been a struggle with some of these changes for different student populations but I can guarantee you in the incoming yours it will be a big lift from what we preach smino the little bit about Audrey Focus as I mention where I collected impact organization in the Rio Grande Valley where in collaboration with educate taxes and communities Foundation of Texas in in the state and we were established in 2012 and our mission is to transform college readiness access and success in the four counties in the Rio Grande Valley so our vision at archery focus is for all Learners to achieve a degree or credential that leads to a meaningful career we are working to strengthen each step of the educational pathway better connector education system and a line Community Resources to provide the support Learners need to High School post-secondary & Beyond so lot of the times I know we have many Educators here in the room today we tend to have these Big Sky ideas but we also tend to work in silos so what we are doing Focus do as we try to be bring all the different community members different organizations together to have these conversations to make change in our region but now getting into the better faster I'll be starting off with some of the most recent updates and we'll walk it from there so while this is not a recent update this is something that's coming really quickly around the corner a month starting call tomorrow cuz today is February 14th so in case you haven't heard our new State financial aid priority deadline is March 15th so students should get in that fast to application whether that is faster or taspa by March 15th and then just to keep you all informed we are expected to go back to the regular financial aid cycle next fall for the class of 2025 meaning that when we start next school year but actually will open some point in October like a typically does and will more than likely here in the state of Texas go back to work January priority deadline but we'll get to that when it's there right now we're very focused on the 2425 financial aid cycle the five things to know number one this was great news because we are dealing a lot with inflation the last few years so the Department of Education has updated the supporting tables used in the essay this is what used to be the espese is no longer a buzzword anymore it's now the student aid index and this calculation is going to account for this new tables are going to account for inflation so the change will provide an extra 1.8 billion dollars in Aid ensuring that all students can access the maximum financial aid they are eligible for so without doing this change there was going to be a lot of gas would need to be filled so this is going to help in the long-term especially with the way inflation is right now because of this great change there is also a downside to it important Italy due to the need to update the tables use them AI calculations universities need time the department of Ed has announced that colleges and universities will not receive the FAFSA application data beginning in the first half of March up to six weeks later than what was previously communicated in the fall there was supposed to receive all this information of students who have completed their FAFSA by the end of January were already supposed to be at the university university starting January 31st that has not been the case as a result the earliest date offered offers for students in your class of 2024 will likely not arrive until mid-april this is going to be a very big crunch time and just for you all to know there are many organization and can that are advocating for universities to push back that May 1st decision date deadline so there are entities out there that are working on our behalf we just don't have a final answer and then on but this wall the financial aid information is not getting to the university told mid-march they have announced earlier this week that they are starting casting starting on Friday at the latest to make sure everything starts working on the back end and you may have also heard that the department of Ed has done it like called out for those that are able to help universities with this process those that have knowledge of the financial aid system number three is mixed status students and families are currently unable to complete the FAFSA forms due to technical issues so student may start the application but their parents don't have a Social Security number will not be able to contribute the parent information at this time the student and parent will be able to complete the 24-25 pasta form online once the issues are resolved as you all may know the online Tesla is coming up soon but it's still currently unavailable so to ensure students maximize their State financial aid funding we encourage students to continue complete that paper task before students can access the tax reform on college for all Texans and the 24 25 paper Tas what is available in English and Spanish and can be accessed on the tassel web page and the student find web page under program resources and then lastly again the state priority deadline has been pushed back to March 15th and this is only for this financial aid cycle any insofar Karina none that I can see in the chat Gina perfect so and can in the department of that are very aware of known financial aid there is a list of issues that department of Ed are working to resolve as of today only for those issues have been resolved so there's not hundreds of issues that have been report there is about just a handful but only four of those have been resolved at this time those issues can be found on the department of Ed website and Karina I can share the link at the end of the call just find me a where you can see those issues happening lied and then we encourage you as practitioners to monitor monitor these issues on your own time as well as in cans webpage they are pretty much stink together on the current challenges and what the rounds something you that just came across my desk this week is the US Senate committee on health education and labor and pensions has set up a hotline to report any challenges in the new plan and we encourage our members to use and their students to use this form so I taking a look at the form and it's very much of give us your feedback it doesn't have to be an issue that you're encountering right then in moment it could be something that you've noticed over you know the last month and a half while working with students on the FAFSA and how its prevented you or the student from moving forward so having these stories being reported are super important whether you're here in the valley or anywhere else in Texas because that we were advocating and then decide to come in he knows what's been happening during this roll out that way it's documented so I have the Q R code there that way you can scan it on your phones and then let me see if I can drop the link I can't drop the link right now but I'll do it later so I want go over some information you may already know it's who needs to create an FSA ID so first and foremost is a student students a qualifier for FAFSA desire these are your students will need to create that episode ID and then for dependents students depending on who their parents are for parents or step parents will be required to be listed on the pasta if their parents fight taxes jointly only one parent or stepparent will need that fsaid if the parents don't file taxes jointly both or they are non filers both parents or step parents will need that at the state ID going to the map of how this looks like they know seeing it in words can be a little bit confusing and then if there are any Mary students their spouse may also need to create an FSA ID if they do not file taxes together do some changes in the process that in case you weren't aware our parents for the first time this year Parents Without Social Security numbers will need to create an FSA ID if their student is completing the fastest application say IDs will need to be authenticated with Social Security and we're seeing that it takes approximately three days to be fully functional functional for fastest completion so when you're having your FAFSA drives at your campuses sure if you haven't already that the students need to have the FSA ID at least 3 days prior from that drive the fall should have been really dedicated to at the say IDs versus right now because if you're waiting for her to do your FSA ID FAFSA application at the same time you're going to run into the issue where the student may not be able to complete it because they haven't been there aside so who is the contributor on the FAFSA form as for the parent so it's plans on how they file taxes in 2022 so if the parents file taxes jointly with their current spouse only one parent will need to create the FSA ID and complete the current session is both parents are married but they file separately or not together then both parents will need to create the episode fsaid and complete the parent session another thing to know is if there is a child. already gone through college the parent may already have an FSA ID they will continue using that at the say ID or at the parent themselves have recently gone through the FAFSA application as a student themselves they will continue to use that same fsaid. they do not need to create a new one it should not allow them to create that new one so we know that students have different living situations and we wanted to share this little infographic about who the students parents maybe depending on marital and living statuses so if their parents are married to each other then eat there they would report both pairing information does it mean that both parents need to have to say ID is just both parents information as reported in the FAFSA the FSA ID was on the previous slide of which parents needed again if their parents are not married each other so we're right here but they live together then again both parents information will need to be reported if parents are not married and don't live with each other then the next question would be which parent provides the most support in the last 12 months and then from there is his parent married married yes or no so if they're not remarried then only the parent who provides the most financial support in the law four months that find that parents financial information will be reported in the FAFSA if the parent is remarried then that parent along with the step parent is the financial information that will be reported in the parents assassin while filling out the FAFSA you will come across the multi-factor authentication this is something that has been very popular in the last live ears among many different apps so making sure that students and parents at least have two of the three options selected two of the common ones are phone and email if students are going to use the email action for the MFA we recommend that when using their fsaid that they use a personal email and not their school email Azle school email 10 to shut off after graduation the every contributor will need to set up at least one form of their MFA so again we're recommend using two options just to have to just in case and and just for the buzzword contributor contributor mean parent and student so contributor is the capsule word for everyone contributing to the FAFSA there will no longer be a signature page on the FAFSA what's up everything is done online so this is why at this time especially for your parents that don't have a Social Security you're probably wondering where that signature pages there is no signature page so we're just having to wait page for that fix to happen so when you're having your FAFSA drives with your students and families a few things that the parent contributors may need to complete the FAFSA as long as well as students who made some of this information everyone will need their fsaid tax returns while many contributors and parents have reported that the new system the date direct data exchange has pulled their tax information can automatically into the FAFSA there may be some instances where parents may need to manual entry some items so having those paper tax returns from 2022 important to have just in case and then other pieces of information such as child support as it information and then anybody will benefits received as well while having those basket drives scuse me so the fsaid for Parents Without Social Security numbers so Parents Without Social Security numbers this year will now be able to create an FSA ID during account creation they will have to answer what's called knowledge base identity questions and I'll show you an example of what looks like momentarily if successful through this process the f is the ID for these parents will be verified immediately as unsuccessful parent must complete a manual documentation process which will also be going over momentarily so the department of that is well aware that this right now has been acting very strange has been working properly so there have been multiple reports that parents without social the numbers who are creating your FSA ID or not being able to set it up properly and because we're not able to set it up properly it's not advancing I'm through all the steps and it's also preventing them from completing their portion of FAFSA for their student at the say has announced or did announced earlier this month that they will be fixing this issue by the end of the month so we're crossing our fingers and hoping that this the sticks come sooner rather rather than later just being that there are many dead lines coming into play pretty quickly if the TransUnion has no information on this person on the on the parent they are sent straight to the Daniel verification process and it is and can understanding that the address to use in the fsaid must be reported exactly the same when inviting a contributor to the FAFSA so if there are any attestation forms this is the email verification address a told me to go to and that email will also be shared in a later flight as well questions so far Karina there are none posted in the chat right now Gina thank you so the knowledge base questions look very similar to when your pee only going through process to verify your identity maybe with the bank or different MSA that you had set up so these questions are asked at the end of the FSA ID creation process for the parent they met at things like what is your most recent previous address phone number that you have previously used and possibly a current employer there is only one chance to answer these questions correctly and weather verification is 6 Castle will be revealed on this next page so this is how the identity match looks depending if they're verified or not on the left side of the screen with the green arrow is pointing and identity match does look like this it says your identity has been verified they would want to save that backup code that you see right here on the screen and then on the right if there is no match which were anticipating there may be quite a few no matches just because the parents may not be in any system they will go through the next steps of the attestation process so that Magna documentation process one of the steps will be to call the FSA information center and there is that one eight hundred number there as well these slides will also be shared I believe after the presentation that way you can also have the number in case you lose your screenshot or photo of the number and then similar to account recovery process the parents that need to go through this manual documentation process will need to submit a few of the following forms so the first form that will need to be submitted is that had to stay Forum which will be available on studentaid.gov and then what are the different forms of ID so they can submit a form of ID such as a driver's license state ID or passport or a utility bill and one of the following ID such as a municipal ID Community ID our Consular ID so this is a small little small little screenshot of what the attestation form does look like so users will need to contact again that 1-800 number that you see on the Strip on the screen the identity verification case will be open and documents will need to be submitted document verification takes between 1 and 3 days add an email confirmation will be provided so when you're going through this process with any parent you need to make sure that they have a working email address so when when parents come into your office please make sure that they do have an email account set up cuz whether I'll surprise are going to need that the CID hooked up to an email address anyway so the documents that are required are listed below and again all these documents are going to need to be made it to that email address at the bottom of the screen ID verification at edd.gov Karina do we have a question the chat yes we do Gina and the question is what happens to the parents who do not have social security in their desperation that they send their application by conventional mail so it is not being recommended that the students fill out the FAFSA form as I mentioned earlier in this call universities are not processing any financial aid documentation until I believe it with a visit mid-march and students won't be receiving their award letters until April so even if a student today whose parents don't have social security numbers if they fill out that paper FAFSA form it's not going to get them in the front of the line faster what universities are not processing financial aid forms at this time because they still need to go through the process of updating the tables their calculations on their end before awarding any award packages so we have been told they should still continue to do the online verification process we have about another two weeks left in the month where this fixed should be resolved for parents who don't have social security numbers just admit virtually online along with their student do you have another question not at this time just a thank you thank you I know you all are wanting to I know the students and y'all are wanting to spend the application already we're just you know we're waiting for things to be fixed and also I think having those tables change also allows everyone a little bit of breathing it's not a rushing game as well so in case you haven't seen it I know we talked about a lot about the process of a parent who doesn't have a Social Security number and different angle documentation is that they'll need at the beginning of this whole process with the FSA ID they will need to select that I do not have a Social Security number box and then they continue the rest of the process of going through the verification process and things like that while they're in there and that social security number box will gray out for them during that process so now we're going to go a little bit backwards and talk about the dependent student so when the student is in the financial aid application in the FAFSA application they're going to come across this page called the consent for fssa they need to provide can stay here the reason for this is without providing consent they will be ineligible for federal student aid so when they get to the bottom of the page they will need to click approve this is one allowing them to be eligible for our federal student aid such as Cal grant if they do qualify for it and if they have worked in the last few years it's pulling income tax information in as well so it serves two-pronged approach if they've never worked a day in their life that's okay it still needs to go through that process still approving it is what they want to do in order to get in the pool to see if they do qualify for any of those tall grass for a sample I know a lot of students that are graduating with college credit as well as possibly Associates now when they're filling out this section of what they're going to begin in the 24 25 other college grade level will be they will continue to select their first year as freshman so this is class of 2020 for those that are about to graduate. selecting that first year freshman box and then at the end of the application they are going to run into the side and complete part so since the parent information has not provided the FAFSA form is not considered complete and can't be processed yet this is very different from what we've seen in the past of the students get to complete their section it's going to be done pretty quickly they're going to sign it by clicking that submit button and Wednesday click. Submit button they're going to see this page saying that they've done their section of the form and they're they're almost there you'll see at the bottom of the screen that there are two current contributors listed for the student and not a request to submit that information has been sent to each parent of the student can't keep up with the status here and right away that these two parents you receive an email saying that they need to complete their section of the FAFSA form the some key guidance for inviting parents parent invites must  legal name birth and Social Security as well as mailing address is these pieces don't have any massive as the mom or the father stepparent don't receive an email then the student needs to go back in and edit some of that information the student knows their mom's name as Mary but the moms legal name is Mary Lou so they have to go back in and make that fixed for example do we have a question Gardena I guess the question was whether I will be able to receive a copy of this information and PowerPoint and just to let you know Gina has already shared that with a tmip team I know there was another question earlier about when the recordings will be shared once the and concludes all of those items will be posted in the tmip website our program manager project manager Wendy for it will be working on those pieces there we go so here are some tool kits and other resources that could be very beneficial to you we have and cans better FAFSA website this has a lot of different Kent State policy and partner Communications as well as some of those fixes that we were talking about and workarounds then there's also the learning webinar you a buyer has been a great resource for text 10 this year we've done probably close to 8 maybe 10 FAFSA webinars throughout the state they were about 5 hours long and they went over pasta and Casper trading very. So if you were able to attend one of those financial aid training to the spa thank you very much and then the student aid account setup so all these websites will be shared again with you later once you get this information and then while we do love to share a partner information there's also some directly from the Department of That So Different At the same resources as well can we are t-shirt at the key guidance when the parents are invited this is what they will see on their end to help complete their students form and they will just need to log in with their fsaid don't see something very similar to what we went through with the student so this is the consent for their student to be eligible for federal student aid so it says right here at the top parent consent where the student will be eligible for student aid so again both student and parent need to click approve on this page in order for the student to possibly qualify for a Pell Grant should they meet that threshold so if for whatever reason there may be some incorrect information on the parents and such as like an address and things like that when they're going through the FAFSA they can fix it through there at the CID portal so anything that they need to modify will need to be done through there at the say ID account so many of us are very familiar with the ESC over the last few years this year we're going into the essay I so here is some side by side comparison of what these changes looks like so with the efcc the household size was reported by the student this year is not a fan besides all this automatically calculated based on tax form so whatever is on the tax form that's what's pulled into the Fai in the past and number in college and pack the ESC now. it's no longer considered in the essay I it is still being asked four different institutional purposes in the past businesses and Farms with fewer than 100 employees were not accounted and now they can be does it matter the size and a some good news is that the lowest Sai is under 1500 so this should help a many of more of our students koala buy for more federal federal aid so while the number in college is not being being calculated into the saint you're still going to see this question being asked for institutional purpose purposes so we do have some students that qualify as independent so we're going to go over a few of those and send is here so we may see students that anytime after the age of 13 if they were an orphan or water the court or in foster care they will be considered independent if they have children or dependents who live and receive more than capture support from them as the parents of the student is applying for FAFSA and they they themselves as a parent support the student not Grandma and Grandpa they will also qualify as independent they have a court order legal guardian or if they are accompanied youth who is homeless or even in the max of made it emancipated minor so those are just some of the cases I know we may see more often than others in our school district now I do realize you're in the state of Texas we do have instances where there are some unusual circumstances this is all across the nation so this year this is something you wear this question will pop up for students if they have an unusual circumstance that prevents them from contacting their parent that would pose a risk to them and some of those risks may include like there may be threatening or abusive behaviors they have been abandoned or estranged from their parent there may be a human traffic a trafficking in Walnut their parents may be incarcerated and that incarceration a pose a risk to them those are just some of the circumstances of these unusual circumstances one case of a circumstance If the parents live in Mexico and student doesn't see them on a regular basis. not count as an unusual circumstance where those cases if the student is living here in the US with relatives but parents are still financially supporting them in that in that way having those virtual meetings are a phone call meeting with the parent to get that information because parents are still going to need to create that at the CID there's still some contact there so having parents in a different country does not really qualify them as an unusual circumstance if the students parents are unwilling to provide their information their financial information but the student doesn't have any usual sort stances that prevent them they may be able to qualify for some direct unsubsidized loans so this is where the student can select yes or no right here on this page this year the student section the students will now be able to lift up to 20 colleges and universities which will eliminate the need to go back remove or add more throughout the application process so for those students I want to apply everywhere this is a good news for them the little bit about the technical stuff behind the scenes so all contributors again must consent to have your tax information transfer even if they did not file taxes in 2022 again this goes for Student Success because not every student has a job that will require them to file taxes and then of course the parents so consent to have their information transferred is a mess the DDS that directly to exchange will be reducing the number of financial questions that most family see on the FAFSA and there are going to be some few manual entries. allowed touches are none us tax filers so again if you leave here with anything today especially for those that haven't submitted their FAFSA doing that consent is super important because of that is not granted the faster we'll be considered incomplete and the student will be ineligible for federal financial aid and please note that because of the DDS students and parents will not see what information was transferred rich is going to be automatically pulled in so when we get to the signing and submitting it all depends on who is the last contributor to provide information will be is submitted to the FAFSA so if the parents are the last one to submit they will see the confirmation page with limited information and the student will receive an email with the estimated sa-i this is the student eight index federal aid eligibility if the students submit last they will see the full confirmation page with the estimated sa-i and federal aid eligibility so this is a submission summary that's Eden's will see it typically takes three to five days and it does list when the application was received and processed as well as the estimated federal student aid that they may qualify for now we know and come does change from time to time sometimes parents lose their jobs or there's just certain circumstances that come up if that is the case we recommend that students use Swift I need over the last four to five years by the department of Ed as well as better make room and this help students draft a document like a word doc talk about like why they might need you know possibly more financial aid and then submitting it to their school like the student would then have to submit it to their school of choice but it's a really good form at to you that's out there so I'm going to take a pause right here are there any questions regarding FAFSA before we get into the Tesla another yarn and posted in the chat all right so Tess was going to be short and sweet compared to all the information I gave you about FAFSA so some quick updates as you may know a student that is using Tasker cannot apply to a school out of state tax what is for primarily State financial aid here in the state of Texas and they can also do not apply for a for-profit or propriety Proprietary School using the task the application so many of you may have heard over the last two years or so that there will be an online Casper application with that being said paper tassel will not be going away because there may be some students or families that their only needs to complete this form is through the paper method so the paper tassel will not be going away anytime soon when the online form is available students will not need to complete both paper and online it's either one or the other so for this school year it is highly recommended that students start completing the a Tesla application because he's online form is still not live at this time so once they fill out that paper application for this year they do not need to fill out the online form so if the student can fill out the FAFSA should they fill out the task for to get financial aid the answer would be no if the student is qualified to complete the FAFSA application meaning are us eligible Citizen and complete the past application they do not complete the task of the tax rate is for undocumented and documented students and should have students and their Paper Toss with to the Coordinating Board the answer is no those Casa applications should be sent to the financial aid office at the college they plan to attend and if you have any questions about where the application process is you're more than welcome to reach out to the financial aid office Mansion at the top of this call as expected they are not really releasing any information as far as going through awarded packages at this time so if you've already submitted house was they are probably the being waited on just like everybody else is financial aid application so again the Paper Toss was still available in English and expand in Spanish and it does Incorporated incorporate some of the major facet changes based on. I start on draft document from the Department of Ed the paper towels to form was released around the same time as the financial assets as a FAFSA form this year so it rolled out a few days after the FAFSA application Adele the document changes are in progress but the Allied House of form will not be available until late spring or early summer from what we've been told so continue using that paper pasta and these are some high-level changes that occurred so the tax reform did remove about 20 questions and they allowed it sorry they added 11 questions from the FAFSA application to align with it as well what will remain on the Tasca application is that selective service question and the housing plan you know we do have a question perfect timing we do have one question in the chat it says can DACA students apply for Tesla yes to my knowledge they typically do I know there are some cases where I believe it's called the 10 number that is not the same thing as a Social Security number so that the students should complete the task that application and out the FAFSA application any other questions Gardena there is one more that was just posted for clarification how would one go about getting a paper copy of the test if the window opened in December of twenty 3 not sure what you mean by window but the application was rolled out the same time frame of the of the FAFSA just a few days later because Allen holiday break so the Tassa application is available through college for all Texans it's going to be the 24 25 and I believe you can also access it through my texts that's something I believe that was Reese we done in the last couple of years the college for all Texans if you just Google it you should be able to find the taxpayer application there as well as well as through the Coordinating Board thank you Gina so the financial aid timeline process again number one would be applying for financial aid the financial aid FAFSA did open in late December during the holiday break and here in the state of Texas our priority deadline is March 15th so students should get their application in by then we know it's going to be a quick turnaround by the time the the fixed with the social security numbers for parents this resolved but we were hoping to get as many done as possible I don't want students complete that step is they needed watch for responses by he usually email to confirm that their financial aid form was processed if anyone is selected for verification they need to submit additional documentation I did read a report recent that this year the Department of Education is trying to limit the number of verifications that do come through in order to just speed up this process a little bit more so hopefully this year you won't see too many verification Flags just maybe a few compared to past years and then when everyone starts getting their reward their award letters in mid-april it's going to be a really quick turnaround process to review does financial aid award letters for students to start deciding where they want to go this coming fall and then of course accepting their financial aid offer again March 15th is not chain we got a month and a day away for this priority deadline so for those of you who do have students that have finally processor application kudos to you now it's just a waiting game on the episode part for the universities to process that information but we're just about 22 days away from the University start testing their systems that way they can start reviewing all the applications early next do the rest of March so this is more for the students but very helpful guidance as well for them to watch for the responses by email make sure that they set up all their University accounts I know are the major Texas universities Like A & M U T type of State they all have different portals students tend to leave those portals alone until the last minute so making sure that they're set up and ready to go could be something next on their to-do list as well and feel free to use this as a resource document taxes on course has some really great stuff available and a text can we also Source a lot of different articles and webinars and resources and we have a new financial aid resource hub it's beautiful it's a Google doc or a word or a Google sheet they believe and we try to keep we keep up with it constantly as far as new information back does, so we have to do financial aid sections 1 on FAFSA when Itasca for resources that you can go through that there's webinars you want to join we highly recommend you all joining them I don't know what time y'all are going through today but there's a silly an end time call at 12 and then there is another one of them called Spring light at 2 about some what do we know now information so if you have the time today I do recommend you joining one of those calls cuz it just feels like the perfect day to learn about financial aid and then we do also share some articles that have come out regarding the financial aid so just so you can read on your own time and here is my information in case you all need it oh thank you Wendy I think she shared the the task of application I know there's another place you can find the task but I just know college-for-all Texas is where I used to go as a Kaiser I'm going to go ahead and stop sharing and try to share some of those links that I told you all about is there any questions there are no questions in the chat right now so as Gina looks for those links and prepares to drop them into the chat we just want to remind you of a couple of things for well I'm going to go ahead and drop the link to the conference booklet so that you can use that as a guy to plan for your next session I believe that lunch is next but we do have another session that is set to begin a little later this afternoon so feel free to use that conference booklet to select your next session are we also want to remind you that at the conclusion of this session you will receive a survey please take some time to give us feedback we welcome your input we want to ensure that moving forward all of the sessions that we present our relevant and we want to hear your thoughts about this particular session so we'll go ahead and stay open a little bit longer here in case anyone has any questions to paste in the chat and Gina will be providing those links thank you all

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